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Wings Up or Down?

Brethren,
I was speaking with a brother last night and the topic of the Eagles came up. According to this brother, The direction of the wings, pointing up or down, is emblematic of whether you are Northern or Southern Jurisdiction. Apparently, Southern SR has the wings pointing up, and Northern has the "traditional" Wings down stature. Is there any truth to this? I have never heard this until now, and not seen this at all in the many images I have seen.

Fraternally,
Lee

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Started Mar. 8, 2008 by:

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Kyle Kissmann

Permalink Reply by Kyle Kissmann Mar. 8, 2008
 

I am going to the Temple today, I will skim through our library and see if I see anything on it. You may be right with Southern vs Northern, I tried several searches on the web and all it turned up was jewelers.

I did noticed something however that might gravitate toward some sort of theory. It may perchance be a cultural difference, a timeline....

The double eagle today, everywhere I look tends to be wings down and the prussian/sumarian eagle (there is one at the Biltmore Estate) with wings down. But, if you look at the double eagle or eagle represented in Egypt, the wings are up. This may have something to do with it.

I may also be representative of a stance, symbolic of its stance. Wings open is seeking more light, making one's self vulnerable. Wings down or closed may be a more protective or even a reverent stance.

I checked the new SR Ritual (Monitor and Guide) that came out last year, it just explains the eagle himself, not the actual position of the wings.

If I find anything out at the temple, I'll let you know. Depending on the # of helpers I have this month, I may be online most of the day.

Kyle
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Kyle Kissmann

Permalink Reply by Kyle Kissmann Mar. 8, 2008
 

didnt have time to look at books, but given all the insignia on the walls of the library it was clear that northern vs southern has alot to do with it like you said
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Ed Repsher

Permalink Reply by Ed Repsher Mar. 9, 2008
 

The Southern Jurisdiction has the wings down. They are up in the North. I am a S.R. Mason from Orlando
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Kyle Kissmann

Permalink Reply by Kyle Kissmann Mar. 22, 2008
 

A new curiosity that I ran across while looking for a fun buckle to wear with a utilikilt that I am purchasing... Unfortunately I am not a 33rd so I cant purchase the following yet, but on the Southern Jurisdiction AASR store site. I saw
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George W. Black

Permalink Reply by George W. Black Apr. 11, 2008
 

Brother, I'm in the SJ and our wings are down. I always thought that it was the other way...Wings Up - North, Wings Down - South....GWB, Past Wise Master, Rose Croix, LA SR
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Tom Balisi

Permalink Reply by Tom Balisi Jun. 3, 2008
 

hello bro, wings down here in the Philippines...
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Clifford Jake Jacobs

Permalink Reply by Clifford Jake Jacobs Jun. 23, 2008
 

I believe the whole idea of wings being up or down has little to do with whether you're from the Northern or Southern Jurisdictions. Here in the North, the double headed eagle with wings up are worn by the 33rd Degree "Actives" which means they are voting members of the Surpreme Council, NMJ. Honorary 33rd's wear Wings Down. All other SPRS of the 32nd Degree wear wings down.
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Timmy Thompson

Permalink Reply by Timmy Thompson Sep. 19, 2008
 

Hello Brothers

I am from the great state of New Hampshire ( The Live Free or Die State ) if you go to http://www.nh32degreemason.org/ You will see the wings are down. And thats all I know .

Brother
Timmy Thompson
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Kendall Jewell

Permalink Reply by Kendall Jewell Oct. 13, 2008
 

in the north wings up in the south wings down
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